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Thunderbolt Incident Updates: inc Forestry Commission response
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Thunderbolt Incident Updates: inc Forestry Commission response 

In November 2020, I gave a presentation and talk to ASSAP (Association of the Scientific Study of Anomalous Phenomena) hosted by UFOlogy veteran Robert Moore. Where I recounted the events of the Thunderbolt Incident, describing in a 2 partway, the journey I am taking in investigating and how the case came my way and the details of the events, as each discovery leads to a new piece of information. After the presentation, which is available in full in a video below. A Q and A session began and took feedback, Christian Romer current chair of ASSAP directed me to British Newspaper Archives and some accounts contained from nearby newspapers rather than just Nottingham/Nottinghamshire.

“Birmingham weathermen reported only showers but in Nottingham lightning caused severe damage to a couple of houses” from the Birmingham Mail from the 12th November 1987.
“Severe weather as gales and storms lashed Britian, claiming the life of a 12-year-old boy.”
The storm accounts are interesting. Yet Nottingham, according to the Met Office whom I had contact and had been in touch with their Weather archives had clear weather on the night.
Meteorological Office at Bracknell in Berkshire, affirmed that there was “no weather” that night – no cloud, no wind, no rain, no lightning. In the File 31 report by Jon King.

https://digital.nmla.metoffice.gov.uk/IO_5248162d-fcd7-41a7-9499-23c73d58bc86/ p46 for the 12th November 1987. Official daily national weather summary. Crown Copyright.

Presentation inc photos and videos of the site. Q and A session included

In the File 31 document.
“Evidence to this effect can certainly be seen at the crash site today. Over the decade since this incident occurred, topsoil and earth has been removed from the crash site down to a level of about nine inches; it has been replaced with clay and covered with fresh topsoil in which new pines and silver birch have been planted. Restoration of the site is now virtually complete.”

Indeed, when I went to the site, can confirm the soil there is below a mix of sand and grit sicilia. I pushed my hand through the soil digging with my fingers.
CJ Romer suggested I contact the Forestry Commission, as they would have data on when this section was planted, or any major incidents.

I spoke on the phone to Grace at Sherwood Pines who manages this area. Who was very helpful, but could not provide any information. Who advised I contact the national Forestry Commission via email.

This was my email recreated,
“I’m an independent journalist, photographer and filmmaker based in Nottingham. Looking to gather some information that I hope you can assist with. 
Thieves Wood, Sutton in Ashfield, Nottingham.Coxmoor Rd, Nottingham NG15 9HQ is the location.
I visited and took some photographs/video of the area. It is clear that a space has been replanted with what may be a mono-crop of trees over a space of 60ft/20m x 90ft/28m diameter. The trees within this area are more than 20ft/6metres in height different all uniform. 
The soil there appears to be a mix of clay and sand. With layers of soil and annual foliage on top.  
A large number of surrounding trees are mired with scars and blistered wood at height. 
So as you can summarize it is personal curiosity driving my questions. 
Has there been a significant fire here? The mass replant of fresh trees/saplings when did this occur? “

After 2 weeks, to no response, I gave the Forestry Commission a phonecall. Who put me through to Sherwood Pines, who manage the area. No one was available to answer my question. However they took my details and information, with a goal to call me back.

Work being what it is in the nature of retail management, and covid restrictions. Christmas and New Year out of the way.

In February following a conversation with an interested party, whom also was going to contact the Forestry Commission, asked what response I had received. Albeit none. I rang their media team, no answer. Fired off an email recreated below.

“Good afternoon, 

Following up on information, pertaining to previously asked questions. 

In November 2020, I spoke to Forest commission media line, who gave me phone number of Sherwood Pines, where I spoke to Grace. Very helpful person. Who suggested I email the Central England email address, who forwarded the questions back to the Sherwood Pines office. Where was I informed by the central team, a member of the local team would contact me in due course. (Respectively 24th, 25th and 27th November 2020)

As we move into the cusp of March 2021, have yet to have a reply or anyone get in contact. 

Shall include the previously asked questions – wonder if a colleague can assist. 

Location;

Thieves Wood, Sutton in Ashfield, Nottingham.Coxmoor Rd, Nottingham NG15 9HQ
I visited and took some photographs/video of the area. It is clear that an space has been replanted with what may be a monocrop of trees over a space of 60ft/20m x 90ft/28m diameter. The trees within this area are more than 20ft/6metres in height different all uniform. Predominantly silver birch. 
The soil there appears to be a mix of clay and sand. With layers of soil and annual foliage on top.  
A large number of surrounding trees are mired with scars and blistered wood at height. 
Has there been a significant fire here? 
The mass replant of fresh trees/saplings when did this occur? 

Local enquiries have found an incident in memory involving a fire due to a crash in mid-November 1987. Can more information be shared? 

Whom can I speak to?

Kind Regards
Kristian Lander. ” 

An automatic response that the enquiry had been received followed shortly after. With respect to the law, there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the received emails that states

Disiclaimer

The information contained in this communication from the sender is confidential. It is intended solely for use by the recipient and others authorised to receive it. If you are not the recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in relation of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.

So I cannot legally, share the email however will summarize the information. Valerie Coulton the present Forestry manager asked for a more precise grid reference co-ordinates. Following a back and forth exchange, Valerie confirms at the location is Corsican Pine planted in 1999, which are underplanted with Douglas Fir. However, no records predate this. She has been in role for 13 years at time of writing. Not sure, we are much closer step to a definitive answer, a shuffle yes.

Shared two other related conversations. One with Sion-Marc Simpson on podcast Our Curious World including a breakdown on the Thunderbolt Incident, the first public discussion I gave. Skip to 45minutes in to follow along.

Following this will be a conversation with Ben Emynn-Jones recorded which I will include shortly.

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